Comhem kort hittas inte

[cHeLo]

Hej alla, skulle behöva lite hjälp med mitt dm500c som jag flshade igår med gemini 4.6 eller nåt, det gjorde jag via telnet. Så långt allt har gått bra, sedan har jag gjort kanalsökning och har fått in massa kanaler, problemet är att jag inte har tillgång till de kanalerna utom 1,2 och 4-an resten är låsta fast jag har comhems kort i och chippen ligger nedåt. Som jag kan förstå efter all läsning här på forumet och på andra ställen måste man installera client och server programvaran för att man ska kunna läsa av kortet på själva boxen. Det har jag gjort, har lagt mgcamd manuellt som det står på guiden. Newcs xml fil ligger i tuxbox/config mappen och ser ut så här :


<?xml version="1.0"?><!--


For setup-issues, look in readme.txt!
If there are other troubles, try different forums or irc channels around :o)


The configfile are NOT case-sensitive, and shouldnt care about dos/unix cr/lf.


** This is the example file for Dreambox/TD etc. that use SCI interfaces.


-->


<newCSconfig>
<readers name="Card Readers">
<device>
<name>lower</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>600</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci0</node>
<parity>odd</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<!-- <boxkey>0000000000</boxkey> -->
<!-- <rsa>0000000000</rsa> -->
<irdeto-camkey>0000000000000000</irdeto-camkey>
<irdeto-camkey-data>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000</irdeto-camkey-data>
<crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
<ipk>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000</ipk>
<ucpk>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000</ucpk>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>34000</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<Seca-PPV>no</Seca-PPV>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>
<device>
<name>upper</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>600</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci1</node>
<parity>odd</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<!-- <boxkey>0000000000</boxkey> -->
<!-- <rsa>0000000000</rsa> -->
<irdeto-camkey>0000000000000000</irdeto-camkey>
<irdeto-camkey-data>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000</irdeto-camkey-data>
<crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
<ipk>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000</ipk>
<ucpk>00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000</ucpk>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>34001</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<Seca-PPV>no</Seca-PPV>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>
</readers>
<radegastserver>
<enabled>No</enabled>
<port>16000</port>
<allow>
<hostname>localhost</hostname>
</allow>
</radegastserver>
<cache>
<emm>20</emm>
<ecm>-1</ecm>
</cache>
<httpd>
<server> <!-- Port to accept connections on -->
<port>8080</port>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
</server>
<user>
<!-- valid value for userfile are:
Any username you'd like - Used for browser to logon (its case sensitive). -->
<name>newcs</name>

<!-- valid value for password are:
Any password you'd like - Used for browser to logon (its case sensitive). -->
<password>newcs</password>

<!-- valid value for accesslevel are:
admin, stats - Define what rights the user has in the web-console -->
<accesslevel>admin</accesslevel>
</user>
</httpd>
<debug>
<password>NewCSpwd</password>
<level>normal</level>
<type>init</type>
<output>console,tcp</output>
<console_options>normal,init</console_options>
<tcp_port>1001</tcp_port>
<tcp_options>normal,init</tcp_options>
</debug>
<newcamdserver>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<name>newcs</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<user>
<name>dummy</name>
<password>dummy</password>
<hostname>localhost</hostname>
<port>12000</port>
<au>on</au>
<sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
<spider>No</spider>
<rate>2</rate>
</user>
</newcamdserver>
</newCSconfig>
Min fråga är, eftersom jag har hållit på med liknande programvaror på olika OS så jag är inte helt jävla borta, vart problemet ligger? Om jag kollar processer så finns ingen process som heter newcamd aktiv:


219 root R 728 217 1.5 2.4 top 3 root SW< 0 1 0.3 0.0 events/0
151 root S 8568 15 0.0 28.4 enigma
156 root S 8568 151 0.0 28.4 enigma
190 root S N 8568 151 0.0 28.4 enigma
154 root S 8568 151 0.0 28.4 enigma
153 root S N 8568 151 0.0 28.4 enigma
155 root S N 8568 151 0.0 28.4 enigma
215 root S 856 213 0.0 2.8 in.ftpd
213 nobody S 764 55 0.0 2.5 in.ftpd
217 root S 692 216 0.0 2.2 sh
55 root S 592 1 0.0 1.9 inetd
15 root S 552 14 0.0 1.8 rcS
1 root S 540 0 0.0 1.7 init
14 root S 540 1 0.0 1.7 init
161 root S 516 151 0.0 1.7 udhcpc
150 root S 444 15 0.0 1.4 gdaemon
216 root S 416 55 0.0 1.3 telnetd
12 root SW 0 1 0.0 0.0 mtdblockd

[Minime]

Har du provat att starta newcs via telnet?
Vad säger den då?

Rekomenderar dig även att rensa upp lite i newcs.xml
ex:


<?xml version="1.0"?><!--
For setup-issues, look in readme.txt!
If there are other troubles, try different forums or irc channels around :o)
The configfile are NOT case-sensitive, and shouldnt care about dos/unix cr/lf.
** This is the example file for Dreambox/TD etc. that use SCI interfaces.
-->

<newCSconfig>
<readers name="Card Readers">
<device>
<name>lower</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>600</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci0</node>
<parity>even</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<!-- <boxkey>0000000000</boxkey> -->
<crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>34000</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<Seca-PPV>no</Seca-PPV>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>
</readers>
<radegastserver>
<enabled>No</enabled>
<port>16000</port>
<allow>
<hostname>localhost</hostname>
</allow>
</radegastserver>
<cache>
<emm>20</emm>
<ecm>-1</ecm>
</cache>
<httpd>
<server> <!-- Port to accept connections on -->
<port>8080</port>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
</server>
<user>
<name>newcs</name>
<password>newcs</password>
<!-- valid value for accesslevel are: admin, stats - Define what rights the user has in the web-console -->
<accesslevel>admin</accesslevel>
</user>
</httpd>
<debug>
<password>NewCSpwd</password>
<level>normal</level>
<type>init</type>
<output>console,tcp</output>
<console_options>normal,init</console_options>
<tcp_port>1001</tcp_port>
<tcp_options>normal,init</tcp_options>
</debug>
<newcamdserver>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<name>newcs</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<user>
<name>dummy</name>
<password>dummy</password>
<hostname>localhost</hostname>
<port>12000</port>
<au>on</au>
<sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
<spider>No</spider>
<rate>2</rate>
</user>
</newcamdserver>
</newCSconfig>


newcamd.list


CWS_KEEPALIVE = 300
CWS_INCOMING_PORT = 21000
CWS = localhost 34000 dummy dummy 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14

[cHeLo]

Tack för svaret, har gjort stor tabbe att jag helt enkelt glömt lägga in binär fil till newcs helt enkelt, jag la in bara config filer i boxen, nu ligger den på DM men när jag startar den via telnet får jag detta upp:


[ 16:04:40 ] [ CardMan ] Atr header is 3B 34 [NORMAL][ 16:04:40 ] [ ATR ] Data:
0000: 3b 34 94 00 30 42 30 ;4..0B0


[ 16:04:40 ] [ ATR ] T=0 1etu=64.00us Guardtime:12etu WWT:76800etu
[ 16:04:40 ] [ ATR ] Historical bytes: 0 B 0 0
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Init Conax card
[ 16:04:40 ] Card reader locked for reader SCI Lower Slot [/dev/sci0]
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Changing to: T=0 ETU=372 EGT=0 Freq=3680000.000MHz
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Changing to: WWT=0 BWT=0 CWT=0
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Sending to Card: DD26000003
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: dd 26 00 00 03 .&...


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 26 &


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: 10 01 40 ..@


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 98 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 11 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Status Word from Card: 9811
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Sending to Card: DDCA000011
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: dd ca 00 00 11 .....


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: ca .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 20 01 40 28 02 0b 00 2f 02 00 2e 30 01 08 23 01 .@(.../...0..#.
0010: 05 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 90 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 00 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Status Word from Card: 9000
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Cas Version in use: 40 - CAS5
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Cas System Id: 0B00
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Country Indicator: 002E - Sweden
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Maturity Rating Level: 08 - Erotic rating
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Session Info (Number of sessions): 05
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Sending to Card: DD82000011
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: dd 82 00 00 11 .....


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 82 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: 11 0f 01 b0 0f ff ff fb 00 00 09 04 0b 00 e0 30 ...............0
0010: 2b +


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 98 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 1a .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Status Word from Card: 981A
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Sending to Card: DDCA00001A
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: dd ca 00 00 1a .....


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: ca .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 22 18 09 04 0b 00 e0 30 23 07 00 00 00 53 86 a9 "......0#....S..
0010: 13 23 07 00 00 00 00 29 c3 54 .#.....).T


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 90 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 00 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Status Word from Card: 9000
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] CAID + pid: 0B00E030
[ 16:04:40 ] [ KeymaN ] Adding key 0000005386a913 type 0 on Provider 000000 for caid 0B00 ID=0
[ 16:04:40 ] [ KeymaN ] Adding key 0000000029c354 type 1 on Provider 000000 for caid 0B00 ID=0
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Sending PIN-code: 0000
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Sending to Card: DDC8000007
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: dd c8 00 00 07 .....


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: c8 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Delay is 17us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_write:
0000: 1d 05 01 30 30 30 30 ...0000


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 90 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Timeout is 1463616us
[ 16:04:40 ] Sci_read:
0000: 00 .


[ 16:04:40 ] [ Conax ] Status Word from Card: 9000
[ 16:04:40 ] Card reader unlocked for reader SCI Lower Slot [/dev/sci0]
[ 16:04:40 ] [ 0B00 ] Init took: 0.201772
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Card 0B00 on port /dev/sci0 ready
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Card queue /dev/sci0 ] Starting...
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Starting Newcamd Server on port 15050
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Reader type 5 on node /dev/sci1
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Closing device /dev/sci1 [Handle=-1]
[ 16:04:40 ] [ CardMan ] Reseting reader parameters
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Opening device /dev/sci1
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Sci ] Could not open device /dev/sci1 [Might be in use by anothe r process?]
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Reset failed ...
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Starting Newcamd Server on port 15050
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Loader ] Starting Radegast Server on port 10001
[ 16:04:40 ] [ SockSrv ] Server thread started
[ 16:04:40 ] [ NewCS ] Ready to GO! :)
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:40 ] [ Newcamd ] Newcamd thread Server started o n port 15050
newcamd: main loop
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Card queue /dev/sci1 ] Starting...
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Newcamd ] Newcamd thread Server started on port 15050
[ 16:04:40 ] bind: error! 98: Address already in use
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Newcamd ] Stopping port 15050
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Server started on port 1234 for realm myShares
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 1 seconds]
[ 16:04:42 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:42 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 2 seconds]
[ 16:04:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 3 seconds]
[ 16:04:49 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:49 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 4 seconds]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:54 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:54 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 5 seconds]
[ 16:05:00 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:00 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 6 seconds]
[ 16:04:40 ] bind: error! 98: Address already in use
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:40 ] [ Newcamd ] Stopping port 15050
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Server started on port 1234 for realm myShares
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 1 seconds]
[ 16:04:42 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:04:42 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 2 seconds]
[ 16:04:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Server started on port 1234 for realm myShares
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 1 seconds]
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:42 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:42 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 2 seconds]
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 3 seconds]
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:49 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:49 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try i n 4 seconds]
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:54 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
-sh: root@dreambox:/var/bin: not found
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:54 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 5 seconds]
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:05:00 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[: missing ]
root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:05:00 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 6 seconds][ 16:05:07 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:07 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 7 seconds]
[ 16:05:15 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:15 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 8 seconds]


root@dreambox:/var/bin> [ 16:04:54 ] [ 16:05:24 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:24 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 9 seconds] [ 16:05:34 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:34 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 10 seconds]
[ 16:05:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:45 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 11 seconds]
[ 16:05:57 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:05:57 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 12 seconds]
[ 16:06:11 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:06:11 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 13 seconds]
[ 16:06:25 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:06:25 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 14 seconds]
[ 16:06:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:06:40 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 15 seconds]
[ 16:06:56 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:06:56 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 16 seconds]
[ 16:07:13 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:07:13 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 17 seconds]
[ 16:07:31 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:07:31 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 18 seconds]
[ 16:07:50 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to lookup remote
[ 16:07:50 ] [ Chameleon2 ] Failed to connect to remote on port 1234 [Next try in 19 seconds]

[cHeLo]

Så här var det:
Ingen startad newcs och ingen startad client heller, då var det inte så knstigt att jag hade inte nån signal övehuvudtaget. Det hjälpte med att rensa newsc.xml filen också. Nu har jag bild på kanaler som kommer från kortet i alla fall. Nu måste jag bara klura ut hur fan jag får newsc att starta automatiskt. Kul grej att hålla på, lite frustrerande när man gör det första gången men va fan man lär sig inget om man inte gräver lite djupare :). Tack